Curse

Krass of Nod · May 11, 2005, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by eventhorizen

At the end of the day you wont care what age, sex, planet the dude is from as long as HEALS YOUR DAMN WARRIOR!!!111

EXACTLY! kepp them heal spell s comin! When they are needed !

Krass of Nod · May 11, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw

You know, its was the psychoanalyst Carl Jung who originally coined the word "introversion." But he was by all accounts one stupid git!

Now Freud, on the other hand, wrote that introversion would be like and internalized libido with which one may satisfy all urges, save copulation itself, through fantasy. Like a withdrawn hysterical girl living in a fantasy, wish-fulfilling imaginary world.

Could not then TeamSpeak bring one's fantasy into conflict with reality?

Actually, I have no real point to make here. I just wanted to say Carl Jung was stupid.

Long live Freud!

Actually Freud was a crak pot some of the things you don't know abut him is that this lady that had an occasional cough, came to see Freud. Mind you he was a medical doctor. He said the the cough came from an unconcious desire to kill her bed-ridden terminally ill father. He had put her into hypnosis and decided that this cough came from this unhealthy way of thinking from her father......She died of tuberculosis the same disease that her father was dying from, Freud is dead man and so are most if his theories in fact the Id Ego And Superego are aboiut the only ones that anyone actually looks his way for. He was nuts addicted to cocaine(he went through a nasal stage) and he smoked so many cigarrettes that he had part of his jaw removed due to cancer

About Carl Jung.......well i do not know if he was stupid or not i do know that some people although educated have no common sense or streetsmarts that I consider stupid and dangerous on many levels...

Beer w/Straw · May 11, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Freud will never go away until neuroscience can get to a better kernel of truth of what he could surmise through pure analysis. You are correct about the id, ego and super ego. For there have be found to be correlations from where they should sit inside the human brain.

Its only been how long after he died?

And how about dopamine? Doesn't that have a striking correlation with "libido?"

The technique of psychoanalysis is still primarily his framework.

Einstein's theory of relativity was based off The Michaelson Morley experiment in proving the speed of light is a constant. It was his genius that allowed him to reason how time and length would shorten and mass would increase inside a gravitational field and with increased velocity. But these ideas were inevitable from the Michaelson Morley experiment.

However, when Josef Breur was confronted with the idea of a sexual etymology for a hysterical womans neurosis. He flat out refusrd to believe the idea. Hence Freud was the only one who dared to think of the primitive undecurrents of the human pysche.

He did it all on his own.

Beer w/Straw · May 11, 2005, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Ha Ha Ha Ha

Go Freud Go

http://mysite.verizon.net/res0im1v/d...logy/id19.html

Krass of Nod · May 11, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Well yes freud was definately a person who moves the field of psychology in a way different and new direction, all I am saying is that he was not a person who was objective if you could ask freud he would say that his way is correct and defend it. He did not admit any flaws which makes lot of his works have some holes in it.....However he did have an influence on the way things worked out.

Alzbeta · May 11, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Mind, I thought the original post was pretty d_mn funny. Way to go. Seems like a lot of people got their panties in a twist over a little joke.

Anyway, I stay off TeamSpeak and Vent and other things like that mostly because I'm on the phone with employees all day long, and the last thing I want to hear when I get home is yet another voice (unless it belongs to PB Owyn Dawnbringer

). I just don't see the appeal of it to me -- it's like a big conference call. Whee.

To each her/his own, huh?

Ollaolas · May 12, 2005, 03:34 AM // 03:34

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Originally Posted by MindBullets

Ok, so you're wondering in a game that allows players to use TeamSpeak or Ventrilo, why not use them?
Sure, sure your team can be more coordinated and calculated...

But do you really want to find out that Sausaletus Rex is actually a 12 year old kid who hasn't hit puberty yet?

I mean honestly, I've played CS and been amazed at the teenage boys that sound like girls, or the Bevis and Butthead clones, uh huh huh...

Or possibly that hot chick you've been grouping with and you finally decide to stop cybering her with text and talk with TeamSpeak, only to find out that you're daydreams are shattered and Ms. Right is actually Bob, a retired oil excecutive in Texas?

I say think before you doom yourself to a world of high pitched voices and enough swearing to make a nun blush!!

Mind

Of course this post in is jest...

Does it really matter what age the person is?

I'm thirteen, and I have been yelled and cussed at online for my age. It's ironic really, older, and supposedly more mature people are cussing at me for being young.

I why you're like that though, 75% of the people around my age I've talked to online say the word 'gay' when we have a group wipe.

/Shrug.

Beer w/Straw · May 12, 2005, 05:10 AM // 05:10

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Originally Posted by Krass of Nod

Well yes freud was definately a person who moves the field of psychology in a way different and new direction, all I am saying is that he was not a person who was objective if you could ask freud he would say that his way is correct and defend it. He did not admit any flaws which makes lot of his works have some holes in it.....However he did have an influence on the way things worked out.

You just called the the Father of psychoanalysis not objective? It isn't politics, it analysis. Are there political ramifications for daring something into consciousness? Frig no!

He wrote about penis envy, and he would defend his position on the subject. But offered equal opportunity in teaching psychoanalysis which at the time was pretty absurd because I don't think woman even had the right to vote back then.

Was that being Liberal? Or realistic?

His definition of mental heal was the ability to love and work. Was that another of his rigid theories?

Its a pretty sad intellectrual climate when people still have reservations to an 18th century neurologist that never had access to any modern tools. Because he just was so careful and thorough in his work, coupled with the fact that to this day it has no parallel. Any half-wit could see how vague and incomplete Freud's writings were.

And why should he submit to a different interpretation when no one has ever done such a thorough and laborious undertaking as he did? He shouldn't! Maybe it shouldn't come as a surprise then that modern neurology has not proven him wrong.

Hello modern neurology! Its about frigin time that you stop running away from the theories of a guy who's been dead for almost a century!

It will rekindle my faith in you cognitive abilities.

Thank you.

Dreamsmith · May 12, 2005, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw

Its a pretty sad intellectrual climate when people still have reservations to an 18th century neurologist that never had access to any modern tools.

If we're talking about Freud, that would be late 19th/early 20th century.

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Maybe it shouldn't come as a surprise then that modern neurology has not proven him wrong.

Indeed, that would be impossible. Freud wasn't properly speaking a scientist. His claims were neither provable nor falsifiable. His "theories" could account for any possible evidence. If you said you hated your father, it confirmed his theory about an Oedipus Complex. If you said you didn't hate your father, it confirmed his theory about suppression. No matter what the evidence was, it confirmed his theories. But a theory that makes no falsifiable claims isn't a scientific theory. It can't be put to the test if there's no conceivable test that could prove it wrong. Freud may have been a wonderful doctor, but he was a lousy scientist, and you can't blame the time period for that, there were plenty of real scientists centuries before Freud came along.

I believe Freud was one of the three examples Karl Popper used in his paper about the difference between science and pseudo-science. (The other pseudo-sciences were Adlerism and Marxism, which, like Freudian psychology, were commonly thought of as being "science" in his day, but were likewise unscientific.)

Beer w/Straw · May 12, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Freud got his book "The Interpretation of Dreams" published in the year 1900; he was 50 years old.

And you're right, psychology, moreover psychoanalysis is not a science. I'd still like to know what happens in the brain when someone "dares" a repressed mememory in consciousness.

I don't think Freud ever claimed to be a scientist. He studied neurology (there was no psychoanalysis before he came along.) I think you would have to compare neurology of his time to neurology of present day if you do want to call Freud a "bad scientist."

There also wasn't any real science available to the shell shock victims of WWI. If there was, the British goverment wouldn't have felt the need to call on Freud to help them out.

Krass of Nod · May 12, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50

here if you do not believe me then look at this link

or this one here

And probably the most damaging yet is here

He did not ever claim to be a scientist well then wtf is psychology and yes he was a doctor. People werte coming to him as a physician because that is what he was and his theory was that all of thier physical symptoms were from a psychological source. petit mal for christ sakes man that is a minor epileptic seizure....but no it had to do with repressed emotion..... think about it dude I am sorry to shatter your illusions about Frued he was not a good doctor at all he was a crack pot.

Krass of Nod · May 12, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by Ollaolas

Does it really matter what age the person is?

I'm thirteen, and I have been yelled and cussed at online for my age. It's ironic really, older, and supposedly more mature people are cussing at me for being young.

I why you're like that though, 75% of the people around my age I've talked to online say the word 'gay' when we have a group wipe.

/Shrug.

I agree I have seen this behavior in 16 and 17 year olds. In fact the othr day my girlfriend and I were killing in Halo 2. this 17 year old starts talking a bunch of shit to my girlfriend and all the younger kids started talking smack back to the older kid with us. the guy was like "you are a bi**h, and a ****". The only reason why he ws eing rude was because I was killing the hell out of and had roceted him into second. Her older brother got on and said something ot the effect of "you are just a petty little d**k and probably don't have a girlfriend", he talked a bunch more smack and then all the younger kids rallied to us chanting "PETTY DI*K, PETTY D**K, PETTY DI*K. He lost bad and couldn't take it. So he had to try and humiliate someone else to ease hie own inadequecy....sad really.

Beer w/Straw · May 12, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Dude.

The article I posted was more recent and was more scientific.

Your's are just more "politics."

BTW Carl Gustav Jung is a famous psychoanalyst that studied under Freud. He was not stupid, far form it. I just wanted to post something pro Freud for flame bait.

Teufel Eldritch · May 14, 2005, 07:36 AM // 07:36

I agree & yet disagree. HL1 & HL2 both have Valve's voice comm & yes it is filled with ppl I would rather not listen to(I mute them) but both TeamSpeak & Vent are controlled by us the players. We decide who has access to the voice comm, we decide who gets kicked from voice comm, we decide.

I personally don't use TeamSpeak/Vent in GW because...

1) my clanmates do not play GW
2) don't know of any good TS/Vent servers
3) don't want to hear the voices of many of the ppl I play with for various reasons
4) I haven't had the need to use voice comm in GW.

Krass of Nod · May 14, 2005, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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BTW Carl Gustav Jung is a famous psychoanalyst that studied under Freud. He was not stupid, far form it. I just wanted to post something pro Freud for flame bait.

LOL, me to that is what this entire thread has been about....reaction. I was doing this from the outset of my posts and someone finally saw it for what it was, superb. I wanted to see what happenes if a person argued vehemently against anything said, to see...the reaction...I actually think Freud had a lot of great ideas as far as the minds workings, but I also have studied his case files.....especially the one he never published and i would probably not go to see him for any reason. I might talk to him and ask questions but I would not have him for a doctor lol. Nothing personal...it is all flame bait....peace out and see ya all around the forums he he